Quote from: billiardballH8;1432977I liked this race untill Sarah Pahlin
She disgusts me .
So much.
Everything about her is the worst of american personofied.

Did you suffer a blow to the head recently?

I gotta say, I don't really agree that it's win/win.
If McCain wins, we continue the war and No Child Left Behind, both of which are really bad and fucking this country.

Quote from: Hudson;1432990I gotta say, I don't really agree that it's win/win.
If McCain wins, we continue the war and No Child Left Behind, both of which are really bad and fucking this country.

You're half wrong. The war is continuing regardless. Obama has a bit of a quicker plan for it that could end it quicker, but we're not up and leaving either way.


also on the subject of Palin, she does plan to be president.: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html

Quote from: Flux;1434189You're half wrong. The war is continuing regardless. Obama has a bit of a quicker plan for it that could end it quicker, but we're not up and leaving either way.

Right now the Army is in the process of handing as much over to the Iraqis as we can and preparing everything else to be turned over asap. Barring a change of message from washington, we're putting ourselves in a position where we can pull relatively soon. This would be good because then we can focus more on Afghanistan.

right now it's a Change/Same election

barack wants to change things, whether it's going to be good or bad, it'll always be better than stayin the same, which is what mccain wants

Quote from: Maltese;1434194right now it's a Change/Same election

barack wants to change things, whether it's going to be good or bad, it'll always be better than stayin the same, which is what mccain wants

You have some severe tunnel vision boy, how's McCain going to be the same?

Didnt Palin recently have a special on TV about how she does her hair? and she belives dinosaurs roamed the earth 2000 years ago? Palin was a good runner.....until she opened her mouth.

Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1434613You have some severe tunnel vision boy, how's McCain going to be the same?

Mr.Change said he was the same.

Well, McCain doesn't like his running mate. If he doesn't even like her that's a big problem, so no. Not even if I agreed with his politics, which I don't. There are, however, way worse Republicans.

Quote from: SilverCherryClock;1432078A lot of people say this but really GWB does have the lowest approval rating of any president ever so it's not just hyperbole.

Well yeah but it's always been like that

Yeah but Bush is the first president to be in the true internet age, the others ones could hide dissent from the masses.

Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1434613You have some severe tunnel vision boy, how's McCain going to be the same?

Same tax cuts for the rich only, same "WE'RE GONNA WIN IRAQ" attitude, same anti-abortion/stem cell research policies, same "oil plz fuck anything alternative that takes too long" attitude. Voted with Bush 90% of the time, "more than-more than even some of my republican collegues".


Do I actually have to go on?

Quote from: RomanClock;1434981Mr.Change said he was the same.

Naturally I'm a sheep though so ignore all that and I'll get on with joining Roman in sucking McCain's balls some more.

Quote from: Flux;1434189You're half wrong. The war is continuing regardless. Obama has a bit of a quicker plan for it that could end it quicker, but we're not up and leaving either way.

I know that.  You can't just up and leave a war one day, but Obama hopes to end it a lot sooner.

Quote from: Hudson;1435307I know that.  You can't just up and leave a war one day, but Obama hopes to end it a lot sooner.

Hopes to. "Hopes to" is the key phrase. Bush "hoped to" find weapons of ass seduction. That's why Iraq isn't a major issue for me this election. Even though it is a pretty major issue in general. I'm pretty sure that Obama can't get a withdrawal plan for it moving in just 4 years, he'd have to keep it continuing the way it is now until he could, and McCain will just try to win; therefore they both accomplish the same amount.

It's not only important to know what they want to do, but also to address what you believe they feesably can do.