Shasta was just a really cool dude who also influenced the music around here. I wouldve never been into Dead Kennedys or Crass if it weren't for that guy. Mcnasty Meal did a pretty great radio show. All the really popular members usually had radio shows on Shoutcast, and if you were a homeschooled teen listening to some older guys playing music you've never heard of, it was pretty influential. The fact I was so young back then coupled with the fact that most of the cool people on .cc were pretentious curmudgeons shaped my way of thinking growing up.

If I remember correctly. WTFnoob had a somethingawful vibe about it? Wasn't Frogbag a heavy user? Frogbag was pretty awesome too. I don't know, the split and purge also had to do with humour. The fact that you had a more 4chan influenced crowd and then .cc being more influenced by the original humour of .cc (Juvenile, stupid flashes.). It got really confusing. Biological clock took over for awhile too correct? Because when WTFnoob came out, we were going through so many forum changes and site changes. .com, .net, .cc, it got really confusing and just hard to operate. For awhile stamper was working on the website? Near the end it got pretty hectic. Who did the original "Fun Stuff" series?  I remember that dude showing me how to use soul seek and letting me download all of his discrographies, also being a bit of a shut in.

stamper was responsible for a couple of site designs when orange and co were still around. I think one of the .cc relaunches actually matched stamper's then-current nwegrounds design (lots of grey and yellow and horizontal stripes)

tritoch/rccolaclock/victrolaface headed up fun stuff. he's probably who you're thinking of.
a cursory googling reveals he's lead artist and animator on something called pirate101.

wtfnoob had a VERY somethingawful vibe. 2003-ish was something awful's heyday and most of the old guard clocks were goons.
viscous even, like, half-assedly copied the 10 dollar paywall with something about you have to write a five page essay to get unbanned? also yes frogbag was there as fr00g. he was a kick. he also popped up here a while back just to say hi

biological ran clockcrew.net as a back-up site after clockcrew.cc went down, since it wasn't what clear actually happened until like years later, and bio didn't want to expand the forum into a full site, so marijuana and zen started clockgrounds, and then koala started clockcrew.co.uk. they all mutated in their own way and then after a couple years everything was gone for a couple of months and then, uh, magic and virus (?) started a site called clockland (? I think. or clocktopia. maybe both? edit: clockse it was called clockse lol) which eventually mutated into clockcrew.net, which was run by leek, which became this site, after, like, a dozen administration, server, and domain transfers.

wtfnoob, sans onion, branched off into buyhappiness.org, which appears to be long gone.

Who needs Clockopedia, when you've got Slurpedia.

Yeah Frogbag was on WTFnoob too. See what I mean? All us awesome people went to WTFnoob, Bio and Zen's sites were for homos. I would've liked to see how that buyhappiness.org turned out though. WTFnoob really could have been something great and I might have never left if it wasn't for Onion. I think he was just an angry guy who used the internet to get it all out. Some girl from his high school came on to the site once just to glance at it and see what he did. She didn't put any of her contact info in the profile but I PMed her and ended up getting her AOL screen name. She said she couldn't believe the way he acts on the internet. In real life he's this quiet timid little pussy, nothing like how he acted in CC.

Anyone here remember Entruder? That's where the coolest of the cool clocks were at.

I went to both sites. Biological was a pretty nice dude and ran a pretty good forum. While it lasted it really wasn't that bad (besides the infamous dodgerclock.). WTFnoob was a circle jerk as much as a welcomed reprieve from what was happening to clockcrew. A group of assholes is not as fun when there's no one to make fun of, and that was partly why WTF was so disappointing to me. It was filled full of incredibly intelligent assholes and trolls with no one but themselves to launch their anger at. The rest of clockcrew just kind've went into this mundane work mode. The fun was gone.

i have to ask you slurpee, if the WTFnoob is long-gone, then
what happened to the F-krew site/forums?
(i think the F-krew was the anti clocks main base)

also, who was entruder?

Quote from: BilliardBall10;1980359i have to ask you slurpee, if the WTFnoob is long-gone, then
what happened to the F-krew site/forums?
(i think the F-krew was the anti clocks main base)

also, who was entruder?

No one ever took F-Krew, The Locks or any anti-clock shit seriously because there was like a 1000 of us.

Quote from: cakeclock;1980355I went to both sites. Biological was a pretty nice dude and ran a pretty good forum. While it lasted it really wasn't that bad (besides the infamous dodgerclock.). WTFnoob was a circle jerk as much as a welcomed reprieve from what was happening to clockcrew. A group of assholes is not as fun when there's no one to make fun of, and that was partly why WTF was so disappointing to me. It was filled full of incredibly intelligent assholes and trolls with no one but themselves to launch their anger at. The rest of clockcrew just kind've went into this mundane work mode. The fun was gone.

I always hated Bio's site but I gave Zen's a shot and I'm pretty sure MJC was on Zen's site and WTFnoob as well. Onion seemed to be the only one that had a problem with some of us playing both sides of the fence. Then Soup tried to join WTFnoob and Onion was a total dick to Soup and said go back to Clock Crew. That along with him banning Shasta was when I started getting sick of his shit. It was one thing to hate all these bratty, worthless noobs. I can even understand why some of them were mad at Bio and Zen because they enabled them. But now we were turning on our friends, and I never really thought of it like that but it makes perfect sense. I always thought our goal was to be rid of the Dodgers, Kabuus and Da Dinictuses, but I guess deep down WTFnoob needed people like that the same way Da Dini needed to fuck people in animal costumes.

Quote from: BilliardBall10;1980359i have to ask you slurpee, if the WTFnoob is long-gone, then
what happened to the F-krew site/forums?
(i think the F-krew was the anti clocks main base)

uhhhhhhhh

so, f krew was some completely unrelated bullshit that didn't show up until way later. iirc it was just a bunch of newgrounds kids who swore to "destroy" us, including a kid calling himself mr. Artist, who I want to say Golden basically picked out of a hat to make fun of. he had a sephiroth avatar so we depicted him as sephiroth. we made a couple flashes about defeating him in a comically easy fashion. then, since he swore to single handedly destroy us "as of 11/06" we declared November 6th to be the Day of Reckoning. (We later realized he meant he registered his account on June 11)

at Strange's suggestion we all made flashes under the loose theme of defeating mr artist in a similar manner to an old knottsberry flash

in a show of good sportsmanship the nascent f krew declared november 11th to be f day (unrelated to that other f day) and made a bunch of their own shit. we kind of twigged that they were in on the joke, and it turned into kind of a friendly competition for which crew would have the better showing... it was us, by a huge margin. the assumption that both crews were of competitive class was sorely mistaken. we owned them so hard that just talking about what happened would have been akin to bullying. f krew's showing was abysmal, and we did so well, strange took daily 5th.

we kind of parted ways and wished each other well, and then we never heard from them again.
and that was f krew.
they weren't the first, they weren't the last, they weren't the best. they were notable for being the first thing we really did after the reunification, but that was mostly on strange and golden and the others who made it into something bigger than f krew actually was. other than that, mostly just a footnote, tbqh

edit:
here's the newgrounds listing for november 6th, 2005, in case anybody's curious
http://www.newgrounds.com/movies/browse/interval/month/sort/score/min_score/0#sort:date-interval:all-page:4349
click previous- the next, like, page and a half are day of reckoning/f day stuff. mostly day of reckoning. either f krew didn't submit a lot, or most of it got blammed. neither would surprise me

bb10 can you stop

wow, thats very interesting!

thanks slurpee. and cake and spud.

i wonder, what happened behind redemption clock's story? i heard that he was very hated for something, but i dont know why.

Quote from: Slurpee;1980365uhhhhhhhh

so, f krew was some completely unrelated bullshit that didn't show up until way later. iirc it was just a bunch of newgrounds kids who swore to "destroy" us, including a kid calling himself mr. Artist, who I want to say Golden basically picked out of a hat to make fun of. he had a sephiroth avatar so we depicted him as sephiroth. we made a couple flashes about defeating him in a comically easy fashion. then, since he swore to single handedly destroy us "as of 11/06" we declared November 6th to be the Day of Reckoning. (We later realized he meant he registered his account on June 11)

at Strange's suggestion we all made flashes under the loose theme of defeating mr artist in a similar manner to an old knottsberry flash

in a show of good sportsmanship the nascent f krew declared november 11th to be f day (unrelated to that other f day) and made a bunch of their own shit. we kind of twigged that they were in on the joke, and it turned into kind of a friendly competition for which crew would have the better showing... it was us, by a huge margin. the assumption that both crews were of competitive class was sorely mistaken. we owned them so hard that just talking about what happened would have been akin to bullying. f krew's showing was abysmal, and we did so well, strange took daily 5th.

we kind of parted ways and wished each other well, and then we never heard from them again.
and that was f krew.
they weren't the first, they weren't the last, they weren't the best. they were notable for being the first thing we really did after the reunification, but that was mostly on strange and golden and the others who made it into something bigger than f krew actually was. other than that, mostly just a footnote, tbqh

edit:
here's the newgrounds listing for november 6th, 2005, in case anybody's curious
http://www.newgrounds.com/movies/browse/interval/month/sort/score/min_score/0#sort:date-interval:all-page:4349
click previous- the next, like, page and a half are day of reckoning/f day stuff. mostly day of reckoning. either f krew didn't submit a lot, or most of it got blammed. neither would surprise me

I thought mr artist was unrelated to f krew

Quote from: BilliardBall1O;1980367wow, thats very interesting!

thanks slurpee. and cake and spud.

i wonder, what happened behind redemption clock's story? i heard that he was very hated for something, but i dont know why.

lol redemptionclock. There's someone we never talk about anymore.

I think he wanted money or something, only wanted to produce content if he got paid for it or some shit.

We are the Clock Crew, we've lasted for 14 years and going! Compared to us, seriously what the fuck is the F-Crew, Kitty Krew, Star Syndicate, Barney Bunch, Glock Group and barely the Lock Legion? Down the line, these are gonna be simply noted as copy-cats. We were the first, longest lasting, most prominent, talented, and diverse flash group on Newgrounds. No matter how obscure our content is. Mr. Artist, was our desperate attempt at having a new arch enemy. Ki1o and Hook's Crew barely lasted. Hell, Ki1o later became LeafClock. At the time it was fun to have other flash gangs to use as bad guys, but it's charm wore off quickly. Great movies were made from them, but in the long run it never really did much for us but throw the viewers into a frenzy of which side of the "flash group" spectrum that they agree more with. WTFNoob sucked, I was there. Old CC members that hated/feared the evolution of the group.

In my honest opinion, the Clock Crew is incredibly way more organized than it ever was. Of course back in the day we trolled NG way more with way more individuals that made their own brand of flash which made up the Clock Crew, but now, with the official and unnofficial collabs, we are getting noticed for the right reasons by the right people and you also gotta keep in mind that NG itself isn't as popular as it used to be. I believe getting 1,500+ views on each collab is a victory in itself. You check the reviews from our recent collabs, the majority are five stars. The more effort and planning we put into a collab, the more views we get. Also for example, when we did the Kim Jong-Un Collab, we had a ton of viewers instantly, because of the fact North Korea and the following themes were trending at the moment (Not saying that we're trend followers at all in the least, but it helped for this specific collab). That being the themes such as Kim Jong-Un's Birthday, The Interview being pulled and then finally released, The Sony and North Korean Internet hacks. We got a lot of views from that collab just because it was current news. Not because it featured Sonic, Mario, Adventure Time, etc...

We're an acquired taste. We have an extremely dedicated group of members. Not gonna lie, I sometimes ask myself why I still make this brand of flash cartoons. Even though it's full of old inside jokes, I LOVE Clock Movies! I'm working on getting the comedy in my movies, or flash collab part's humor MORE universal with just a hint of old inside jokes still intact. I'm gonna be a Clock beyond if we do or do not even have a designated site or forum to communicate on. I've grown up so much with this community and believe in it, and it's ability to attract and influence newer people. It's got this beautiful mystique about it. To newcomers it may be completely out there, but once you start looking into it, it's almost insanely connected, well prepared, and thought out. It's because our core members have the passion and belief that there is a purpose behind all of this. No matter how crazy it sounds to outsiders. To me, we are the Looney Tunes of the internet. We have the ability, and the talent. We just gotta keep producing work and keep a steady presence on Newgrounds. We gotta keep up with Holiday Collabs, Clock Day, Flash Flood, and trending event Collabs. When or if ever NG stops being a thing, we're gonna have to work even harder having a presence on outlets such as YouTube.

Preach it, brother

Quote from: DurianClock;1980377Hell, Ki1o later became LeafClock.

I love how this little factoid keeps coming up, because it's not true at all. At one point LeafClock was known as KiwanoClock, which is a kind of melon. I made a thread accusing him of being Ki1o because you know, ki-wan-o, it sounds similar. It was a joke that somehow turned into folklore.

The one thing I've never understood about the Clock Crew, and which is showing in this thread, is the elitism it always seemed to generate. True, behavior like that is probably inherent to any form of community, but it always seemed especially funny to me that on a website where teenage boys gather to animate dick jokes and objects with fucking clocks on them there would form these aggressively snobbish social structures. At its core, the Clock Crew is just an extremely silly enterprise, and the contrast between that and the often deadly serious and overly dramatic attitudes regarding things like perceived status, particular websites and secessions, is hilarious.

Quote from: GreyClock;1980380I love how this little factoid keeps coming up, because it's not true at all. At one point LeafClock was known as KiwanoClock, which is a kind of melon. I made a thread accusing him of being Ki1o because you know, ki-wan-o, it sounds similar. It was a joke that somehow turned into folklore.

The one thing I've never understood about the Clock Crew, and which is showing in this thread, is the elitism it always seemed to generate. True, behavior like that is probably inherent to any form of community, but it always seemed especially funny to me that on a website where teenage boys gather to animate dick jokes and objects with fucking clocks on them there would form these aggressively snobbish social structures. At its core, the Clock Crew is just an extremely silly enterprise, and the contrast between that and the often deadly serious and overly dramatic attitudes regarding things like perceived status, particular websites and secessions, is hilarious.

I think this is the most intellligent point made about the clockcrew (in this particular thread.) . Also why it's still so addicting. Longevity elitism, the promise that you'll get respect if you stick around longer. Additionally the lore/history which plays a big part in the way people feel like they need to act. Hell, there was an evolution for most of the clocks back thing:
*Noob- You come in, ask stupid questions, do some awful flashes and talk like an idiot. (get made fun of.)
*Average noob- You've been in the clockcrew long enough where people don't call you a noob, you've become better at not acting like an idiot.
*Senior- You love making fun of new members, talking about the good old days when you were new and being an asshole.  

Also what's up Greyclock? I remember you.

On a side note to this conversation: This has been a pretty good nostalgic thread. And it's really cool to see people still hard at work. It's also really cool to see people I haven't thought of or talked too in ages still posting/making flash movies. I think it's important to note that through all the drama (drama being partly why this place has sustained a sufficient entertainment value.) old users still creating. To use the analogy "beating a dead horse" would be partly correct. But I like the idea that clockcrew manages to revive and then kill said horse over and over. There's something very impressive with the dedication of long time members (necromancers.). This dip into nostalgia has been a nice break from real life. So thanks bros {{{CC}}}} and what not.

Quote from: GreyClock;1980380the Clock Crew is just an extremely silly enterprise,

you dare