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Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 02, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
(every adele song is the same come on)

I like Rolling in the Deep

hm yeah fair enough that song's kinda good

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Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 08:58:23 PM
Speaking of surreal: The Blind Owl.

I only had to skim a few words to think "hey this shit seems up my alley". Sounds like a real trip. I'll have to look into which of the three english translations is best.

Cool. I read the 1973 Picador edition, but I can't find who the translator was for that one. Just happened to be the copy my library had. I skimmed through the full translation that's on Wikipedia and it has sentences and words like: "I give it to you to keep as a souvenir from me, O.K.?" which seems a little off, but what do I know.

"The Blind Owl was translated into English by D. P. Costello (1957), by Iraj Bashiri (1974, revised in 1984 and again in 2013), and by Naveed Noori (2011)."
If this is correct, it has to be Costello. Bashiri is the one linked on Wikipedia.

Have you read more surrealist stuff? I've had this list for a while, but haven't gotten around to reading any, with the exception of The Blind Owl. They are:
Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel
Zenobia by Gellu Naum
Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars
The Songs of Maldoror by the Comte de Lautréamont
A Night of Serious Drinking by René Daumal
Nadja by André Breton

I guess you could add authors like Bulgakov and Kafka to the list.

Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 07:11:48 PM
Dutch lit

These sound great, I'll try to check them out! Thanks <3

Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 07:52:35 PM
Gabriel Garcia Marquez/100 Years of Solitude;
Got that one on the shelf, ready to go.

Haruki Murakami/The Wind-up Bird Chronicle;
I've read Norwegian Wood, which is, from what I understand, his most straightforward novel? His other works are more magic realist in nature?

James Baldwin/Tell Me How Long The Train's Been Gone; Agustina Bessa-Luís/A Sibila
Never heard of either.

Hermann Hesse/The Steppenwolf;
Is on my longlist along with Siddhartha. I want to try and read more in German.

Friedrich Nietzsche/Beyond Good and Evil;
Is that a good place to start with Nietzsche? I forced myself to read Zarathustra once and I was mostly lost, too allegorical for me to distil the philosophy, not enough bagage and things to grab on to. Speaking of philosophy, Ludwig Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations made me cum, it's so elegant and structured and enlightening. Everyone's always harping on about the Tractatus, but I found that to be a load of hogwash by comparison (bit strong perhaps, but you get what I mean). Maybe because later Wittgenstein is the shit and I started there.

Post your other favorites, even if they're obvious.

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 02, 2020, 06:13:35 PMThat's an excellent choice, I love the fuck out of that book. I should warn you that it's an unfinished novel (it still has like 700 pages tho). I think that it's easy for coming of age novels to fall into trite "being an adult is soooo hard" bullshit, but this one doesn't patronize its protagonist. Quite on the contrary, I think that it's wonderfully nuanced regarding his character development. It also touches ever so lightly on social criticism without being preachy. God, I love it so much

Have you heard of the two books I mentioned in this category? You should check them out if not, talk about unflinching looks at growing up. No holds barred sleaze, violence, degradation and death.

Yeah, I guess you could tell I'm very much into magical realism. Gabriel Garcia Marquez is a perfect example of latin american magical realism (I also love Isabel Allende; her House of the Spirits is amazing). He also wrote Love in Times of Cholera, which is not as epic as 100 Years but it's a fun little love story.

In that vein, Murakami is also a proponent of magical realism, but much more "contemporary" in many aspects. It's kinda hard to explain, but there's a blend of weird surreal stuff (all of it's connected somehow but it's never really explained how) with a modern style of literature. His writing is really easy to follow though. I suggested The Wind-up Bird Chronicle because it's one of my favorites, but if you have the patience I'd go and read the 1Q84 trilogy. Also, you might like Killing Commendatore because it's about paintings.

James Baldwin's novels have a lot of commentary on racism in (early/mid XX Century) America, but they're beautifully written. Agustina Bessa-Luís is a portuguese writer who is not widely known, but her writing provides witty commentary, I'd check it out.

I also love Siddhartha, it's short but full of stuff to think and comment on. Hermann Hesse in general rules. If you're into surreal stuff you'll like Steppenwolf though. Kinda captures the early XX Century ennui but brings in an element of weird shit and early absurdism. It's very much worth a read. Regarding German lit in general, Thomas Mann is kinda dense, but Günter Grass (Die Blechtrommel, Tonio Kröger is nice, even if a bit long-winded. I can obviously suggest Kafka, Goethe's Die Leiden des Jungen Werther...

Yeah, Zarathustra is definitely not the best place to start with him. It's probably his magnum opus in the sense that it sums up his ideas, but it's more of a poem than a philosophical text. In that sense, it's one of the last of his books you should read. As an entry point I'd go with either Beyond Good and Evil or On the Generalogy of Moral. The Antichrist is easy enough, but it focuses on beating the shit outta christianity so it's not comprehensive. Ecce Homo is also nice, it gives a wide perspective on his ideas because he talks about what he previously wrote.

I've been meaning to read Wittgenstein for a long time, maybe I'll start by that suggestion, thanks man.

Other favorites: Charles Dickens/David Copperfield; Aldous Huxley/Brave New World+The Island+Doors of Perception; Albert Camus/The Myth of Sisyphus; Phillip Roth/American Pastoral

Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 08:22:30 PM
I'm weirdly dogmatic when it comes to reading philosophy though. I get frustrated or bored if I don't agree with something, any little thing. I even get frustrated when I read stuff that I agree with in principle, but that is argued poorly. "Ah, that's a good point. Hey, hang on just a minute there... YOU STRAWMAN MOTHERFUCKER YOU, FUCK THIS I'M OUT!" In fiction I'm up for anything, but as soon as it's presented as fact or something, I don't know what it is exactly... You could spin that as both a positive and a negative I guess, but it does stifle quite a few attemps at broadening my horizons through this particular channel.

Maybe you go into it with the view of trying to disprove what is being said? There aren't many philosophy books with which I agree wholeheartedly, but that's because I keep poking holes at their reasoning. Try to look at it from a perspective of a challenge

also if you're into surreal stuff, I recommend the books of Boris Vian

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 06:40:42 AMThese sound great, I'll try to check them out! Thanks <3

Would love to hear when you do.

As for Flemish literature. I actually prefer the language to "proper" Dutch. It's much more vibrant, with all the dialects and idiolects, a certain overall feel. I have no idea if any of that even translates, I think I read once that they sometimes translate Flemish to English by using a sort of southern US vernacular, not sure how true that is, I could see why they might do that, but ugh... Anyway, try some. Famous authors are: Hugo Claus, Hubert Lampo and Louis Paul Boon.



There's a Flemish cult writer I love, his name: Herman Brusselmans (pictured). He writes two books a year, they're mostly about nothing (or everything). Drunken conversations in bars, drunken conversations outside of bars. They are often laugh out loud funny. I've read over forty of his novels. I doubt many are available in translation, but I think "The Man Who Found A Job" and "Ex Drummer" should be available. The latter was turned into a movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Drummer

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This is the intro to the movie (with subtitles), to give you some idea. It's a valiant effort, but it doesn't quite capture the vibe of the novels though and isn't nearly as funny, but what are you gonna do?

I like Dirkjan.

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 06:59:50 AMYeah, I guess you could tell I'm very much into magical realism. Gabriel Garcia Marquez is a perfect example of latin american magical realism (I also love Isabel Allende; her House of the Spirits is amazing). He also wrote Love in Times of Cholera, which is not as epic as 100 Years but it's a fun little love story.

You read Borges? I have read some and from what I understand he's like the mack daddy of it all?

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 06:59:50 AMIn that vein, Murakami is also a proponent of magical realism, but much more "contemporary" in many aspects. It's kinda hard to explain, but there's a blend of weird surreal stuff (all of it's connected somehow but it's never really explained how) with a modern style of literature. His writing is really easy to follow though. I suggested The Wind-up Bird Chronicle because it's one of my favorites, but if you have the patience I'd go and read the 1Q84 trilogy. Also, you might like Killing Commendatore because it's about paintings.

James Baldwin's novels have a lot of commentary on racism in (early/mid XX Century) America, but they're beautifully written. Agustina Bessa-Luís is a portuguese writer who is not widely known, but her writing provides witty commentary, I'd check it out.

I also love Siddhartha, it's short but full of stuff to think and comment on. Hermann Hesse in general rules. If you're into surreal stuff you'll like Steppenwolf though. Kinda captures the early XX Century ennui but brings in an element of weird shit and early absurdism. It's very much worth a read. Regarding German lit in general, Thomas Mann is kinda dense, but Günter Grass (Die Blechtrommel, Tonio Kröger is nice, even if a bit long-winded. I can obviously suggest Kafka, Goethe's Die Leiden des Jungen Werther...

Yeah, Zarathustra is definitely not the best place to start with him. It's probably his magnum opus in the sense that it sums up his ideas, but it's more of a poem than a philosophical text. In that sense, it's one of the last of his books you should read. As an entry point I'd go with either Beyond Good and Evil or On the Generalogy of Moral. The Antichrist is easy enough, but it focuses on beating the shit outta christianity so it's not comprehensive. Ecce Homo is also nice, it gives a wide perspective on his ideas because he talks about what he previously wrote.

I've been meaning to read Wittgenstein for a long time, maybe I'll start by that suggestion, thanks man.

Other favorites: Charles Dickens/David Copperfield; Aldous Huxley/Brave New World+The Island+Doors of Perception; Albert Camus/The Myth of Sisyphus; Phillip Roth/American Pastoral

Nice, thanks. Been meaning to read 1Q84, yeah. Dickens I've never really bothered with, not sure why.

I read The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell, which ties in perfectly to the point I was making earlier about reading philosophy. It was a long time ago, but I think that he first made the argument that monks only experienced visions because of certain spores or molds or whatever in the ropes they used to whip themselves with? Like, their visions were nothing more than a chemical reaction. (I got no qualms with that part.*) However he then went on detailing his own experiences with mescaline and somehow qualified those as true spiritual experiences? I might be oversimplifying a great deal or misremembering, but I was like "Yeah, whatever pal."

* In fact I read something interesting once about a certain fungus called ergot that grows on wheat or something and can cause hallucinations. I think they mentioned it as a possible contributing factor to the rise of witchcraft and paranoia in the Middle Ages.

Sisyphus I read as well, I preferred The Stranger at the time. Can't really remember much from the former, should reread maybe. I only read Portnoy's Complaint by Roth, which was funny. Jack off to your mother's bra, son.

Quote from: PirateClock on November 03, 2020, 07:59:29 AMI like Dirkjan.

Me too

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Jesus Christ steam has an entirely new UI since the last time I signed in

Quote from: GreyClock on November 03, 2020, 05:32:23 AM
"The Blind Owl was translated into English by D. P. Costello (1957), by Iraj Bashiri (1974, revised in 1984 and again in 2013), and by Naveed Noori (2011)."
If this is correct, it has to be Costello. Bashiri is the one linked on Wikipedia.

Have you read more surrealist stuff? I've had this list for a while, but haven't gotten around to reading any, with the exception of The Blind Owl. They are:
Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel
Zenobia by Gellu Naum
Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars
The Songs of Maldoror by the Comte de Lautréamont
A Night of Serious Drinking by René Daumal
Nadja by André Breton

I guess you could add authors like Bulgakov and Kafka to the list.

Well now I have a reading list too. I can't really think of any authors you wouldn't already know, but I have read the Metamorphosis. Somehow that didn't feel surreal to me even when he turned into a giant bug and it objectively was. It just felt starkly realistic and sober. Like when they threw something at him and it got lodged in his carapace and got infected over the course of the book, or how he put all this work into taking care of his family and paying for a bigger apartment but they were happier without him in a smaller apartment. It's a quick read but a harrowing one. Good stuff. Wasn't he gonna burn all his shit before he died too? He had no idea how good he was.

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Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 08:22:30 PM
I'm weirdly dogmatic when it comes to reading philosophy though. I get frustrated or bored if I don't agree with something, any little thing. I even get frustrated when I read stuff that I agree with in principle, but that is argued poorly. "Ah, that's a good point. Hey, hang on just a minute there... YOU STRAWMAN MOTHERFUCKER YOU, FUCK THIS I'M OUT!" In fiction I'm up for anything, but as soon as it's presented as fact or something, I don't know what it is exactly... You could spin that as both a positive and a negative I guess, but it does stifle quite a few attemps at broadening my horizons through this particular channel.

Maybe you go into it with the view of trying to disprove what is being said? There aren't many philosophy books with which I agree wholeheartedly, but that's because I keep poking holes at their reasoning. Try to look at it from a perspective of a challenge

That's how it should be done I think. Read what they have to say, and pick out what you agree with by the end of it. Which is also how I approach food. Look at everyone else's ideas and see what's good. Which is easier than ever right now.

Quote from: GreyClock on November 03, 2020, 08:29:39 AMNice, thanks. Been meaning to read 1Q84, yeah. Dickens I've never really bothered with, not sure why.

I read The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell, which ties in perfectly to the point I was making earlier about reading philosophy. It was a long time ago, but I think that he first made the argument that monks only experienced visions because of certain spores or molds or whatever in the ropes they used to whip themselves with? Like, their visions were nothing more than a chemical reaction. (I got no qualms with that part.*) However he then went on detailing his own experiences with mescaline and somehow qualified those as true spiritual experiences? I might be oversimplifying a great deal or misremembering, but I was like "Yeah, whatever pal."

* In fact I read something interesting once about a certain fungus called ergot that grows on wheat or something and can cause hallucinations. I think they mentioned it as a possible contributing factor to the rise of witchcraft and paranoia in the Middle Ages.

Sisyphus I read as well, I preferred The Stranger at the time. Can't really remember much from the former, should reread maybe. I only read Portnoy's Complaint by Roth, which was funny. Jack off to your mother's bra, son.

I never paid attention to anything post-Brave New World by Huxley. It did sound like a lot of it was drugs lmao stuff but I'm sure a lot of is worthwhile even then, I'm curious about his followup commentary book on Brave New World. I tried Myth of Sisyphus and I know I'd like it if I actually knew all the crap he was referencing. It's like reading Dune where every ten words there's a thing you have to look up or know about already but instead of being a brief entry at the back of the book it's a whole book or an entire author or school of philosophy's works. And it pisses me off because I want the delicious philosophical meat on the inside. I felt like a caveman trying to break open a coconut. I can just SMELL IT. Maybe my memories are overselling it and I was just feeling lazy that day, I'll probably give it another chance eventually.

Quote from: RobClock on November 03, 2020, 11:47:12 AM
[img width=800]https://i.imgur.com/jNq9BBx.jpg[/img.]

I like that little CRT monitor there. And yeah the new Steam UI was weird to get used to. It's fine when you get used to it and you're not actually losing any functionality, but I'd like an option for the old simple list mode for the library, I forget what it's called.

Thanks for the recommendations, man. I'll definitely try to look into it. I usually get my books from a bookstore, but if I can't find them there I'll try Amazon or some shit.

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Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 06:59:50 AMYeah, I guess you could tell I'm very much into magical realism. Gabriel Garcia Marquez is a perfect example of latin american magical realism (I also love Isabel Allende; her House of the Spirits is amazing). He also wrote Love in Times of Cholera, which is not as epic as 100 Years but it's a fun little love story.

You read Borges? I have read some and from what I understand he's like the mack daddy of it all?

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 06:59:50 AMIn that vein, Murakami is also a proponent of magical realism, but much more "contemporary" in many aspects. It's kinda hard to explain, but there's a blend of weird surreal stuff (all of it's connected somehow but it's never really explained how) with a modern style of literature. His writing is really easy to follow though. I suggested The Wind-up Bird Chronicle because it's one of my favorites, but if you have the patience I'd go and read the 1Q84 trilogy. Also, you might like Killing Commendatore because it's about paintings.

James Baldwin's novels have a lot of commentary on racism in (early/mid XX Century) America, but they're beautifully written. Agustina Bessa-Luís is a portuguese writer who is not widely known, but her writing provides witty commentary, I'd check it out.

I also love Siddhartha, it's short but full of stuff to think and comment on. Hermann Hesse in general rules. If you're into surreal stuff you'll like Steppenwolf though. Kinda captures the early XX Century ennui but brings in an element of weird shit and early absurdism. It's very much worth a read. Regarding German lit in general, Thomas Mann is kinda dense, but Günter Grass (Die Blechtrommel, Tonio Kröger is nice, even if a bit long-winded. I can obviously suggest Kafka, Goethe's Die Leiden des Jungen Werther...

Yeah, Zarathustra is definitely not the best place to start with him. It's probably his magnum opus in the sense that it sums up his ideas, but it's more of a poem than a philosophical text. In that sense, it's one of the last of his books you should read. As an entry point I'd go with either Beyond Good and Evil or On the Generalogy of Moral. The Antichrist is easy enough, but it focuses on beating the shit outta christianity so it's not comprehensive. Ecce Homo is also nice, it gives a wide perspective on his ideas because he talks about what he previously wrote.

I've been meaning to read Wittgenstein for a long time, maybe I'll start by that suggestion, thanks man.

Other favorites: Charles Dickens/David Copperfield; Aldous Huxley/Brave New World+The Island+Doors of Perception; Albert Camus/The Myth of Sisyphus; Phillip Roth/American Pastoral

Nice, thanks. Been meaning to read 1Q84, yeah. Dickens I've never really bothered with, not sure why.

I read The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell, which ties in perfectly to the point I was making earlier about reading philosophy. It was a long time ago, but I think that he first made the argument that monks only experienced visions because of certain spores or molds or whatever in the ropes they used to whip themselves with? Like, their visions were nothing more than a chemical reaction. (I got no qualms with that part.*) However he then went on detailing his own experiences with mescaline and somehow qualified those as true spiritual experiences? I might be oversimplifying a great deal or misremembering, but I was like "Yeah, whatever pal."

* In fact I read something interesting once about a certain fungus called ergot that grows on wheat or something and can cause hallucinations. I think they mentioned it as a possible contributing factor to the rise of witchcraft and paranoia in the Middle Ages.

Sisyphus I read as well, I preferred The Stranger at the time. Can't really remember much from the former, should reread maybe. I only read Portnoy's Complaint by Roth, which was funny. Jack off to your mother's bra, son.

1Q84 rules, and it's thrilling as shit. Seriously, it's like that book's got crack in it or something, you read three bigass tomes in days. It's very very gripping. Dickens doesn't really catch my eye either, but I came across a copy of David Copperfield for like 3€ so I thought, hey why not. Turns out I loved it, it kinda follows the life of the titular character from birth to death (it's a pretty big book). It's loosely autobiographical, I think.

Yeah, I get your point about philosophy there. I read Descartes' Discourse on Method and when the dude assumes God as the ultimate referential I thought "nice incoherency there pal". I think that with philosophy there are certain specific things you can take from each author, not necessarily their ideas "in bulk".

I'll comment on Huxley in response to Flounderman:

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Quote from: GreyClock on November 03, 2020, 05:32:23 AM
"The Blind Owl was translated into English by D. P. Costello (1957), by Iraj Bashiri (1974, revised in 1984 and again in 2013), and by Naveed Noori (2011)."
If this is correct, it has to be Costello. Bashiri is the one linked on Wikipedia.

Have you read more surrealist stuff? I've had this list for a while, but haven't gotten around to reading any, with the exception of The Blind Owl. They are:
Locus Solus by Raymond Roussel
Zenobia by Gellu Naum
Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars
The Songs of Maldoror by the Comte de Lautréamont
A Night of Serious Drinking by René Daumal
Nadja by André Breton

I guess you could add authors like Bulgakov and Kafka to the list.

Well now I have a reading list too. I can't really think of any authors you wouldn't already know, but I have read the Metamorphosis. Somehow that didn't feel surreal to me even when he turned into a giant bug and it objectively was. It just felt starkly realistic and sober. Like when they threw something at him and it got lodged in his carapace and got infected over the course of the book, or how he put all this work into taking care of his family and paying for a bigger apartment but they were happier without him in a smaller apartment. It's a quick read but a harrowing one. Good stuff. Wasn't he gonna burn all his shit before he died too? He had no idea how good he was.

Quote from: DiscoBallClock on November 03, 2020, 07:06:27 AM

Quote from: GreyClock on November 02, 2020, 08:22:30 PM
I'm weirdly dogmatic when it comes to reading philosophy though. I get frustrated or bored if I don't agree with something, any little thing. I even get frustrated when I read stuff that I agree with in principle, but that is argued poorly. "Ah, that's a good point. Hey, hang on just a minute there... YOU STRAWMAN MOTHERFUCKER YOU, FUCK THIS I'M OUT!" In fiction I'm up for anything, but as soon as it's presented as fact or something, I don't know what it is exactly... You could spin that as both a positive and a negative I guess, but it does stifle quite a few attemps at broadening my horizons through this particular channel.

Maybe you go into it with the view of trying to disprove what is being said? There aren't many philosophy books with which I agree wholeheartedly, but that's because I keep poking holes at their reasoning. Try to look at it from a perspective of a challenge

That's how it should be done I think. Read what they have to say, and pick out what you agree with by the end of it. Which is also how I approach food. Look at everyone else's ideas and see what's good. Which is easier than ever right now.

Quote from: GreyClock on November 03, 2020, 08:29:39 AMNice, thanks. Been meaning to read 1Q84, yeah. Dickens I've never really bothered with, not sure why.

I read The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell, which ties in perfectly to the point I was making earlier about reading philosophy. It was a long time ago, but I think that he first made the argument that monks only experienced visions because of certain spores or molds or whatever in the ropes they used to whip themselves with? Like, their visions were nothing more than a chemical reaction. (I got no qualms with that part.*) However he then went on detailing his own experiences with mescaline and somehow qualified those as true spiritual experiences? I might be oversimplifying a great deal or misremembering, but I was like "Yeah, whatever pal."

* In fact I read something interesting once about a certain fungus called ergot that grows on wheat or something and can cause hallucinations. I think they mentioned it as a possible contributing factor to the rise of witchcraft and paranoia in the Middle Ages.

Sisyphus I read as well, I preferred The Stranger at the time. Can't really remember much from the former, should reread maybe. I only read Portnoy's Complaint by Roth, which was funny. Jack off to your mother's bra, son.

I never paid attention to anything post-Brave New World by Huxley. It did sound like a lot of it was drugs lmao stuff but I'm sure a lot of is worthwhile even then, I'm curious about his followup commentary book on Brave New World. I tried Myth of Sisyphus and I know I'd like it if I actually knew all the crap he was referencing. It's like reading Dune where every ten words there's a thing you have to look up or know about already but instead of being a brief entry at the back of the book it's a whole book or an entire author or school of philosophy's works. And it pisses me off because I want the delicious philosophical meat on the inside. I felt like a caveman trying to break open a coconut. I can just SMELL IT. Maybe my memories are overselling it and I was just feeling lazy that day, I'll probably give it another chance eventually.

Doors of Perception does read like a "woooah man i'm sooo high lmao" text, but it's interesting in the sense that you can tell that it ties into his other philosophical beliefs. You can tell Huxley was a lot into Asian/Eastern philosophy, and what he says about the experience of taking drugs is kinda reflexive of that. In that sense, The Island is quite illustrative of that. It's a description of a utopical societal model with a plot - kinda like Thomas More's Utopia - that pretty much illustrates his beliefs.

I liked Sisyphus because it pretty much sums up Absurdism in a complicated and convoluted nutshell. But yeah, it's not the most accessible book, especially because Camus is kinda literary about it - it's kinda dense

ghostbusters video game is free to own on the epic store rn

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/free-games

and the blair witch game but I assume I'm the only one who was interested in that

idk how their plan to enter the market by giving me free stuff is supposed to work
it's just the steam store except without any of the stuff that makes it good and instead of buying what you want they give you one thing for free every week
I literally only log on to claim free stuff
I haven't even installed the app to actually play any of them yet, I just lay claim on whatever's there whenever I remember to

This dumb BBS won't let me edit my posts, but yeah, Flounderman already made my point on the topic of philosophy.

Also, Metamorphosis is a great book, no doubt. But personally I love The Trial . Maybe it's because of my job (every lawyer should read it), but there's something fascinating - and familiar to everyone, I'm sure - about going through the motions of a plot and procedure completely unknown to you

Quote from: Slurpee on November 03, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
idk how their plan to enter the market by giving me free stuff is supposed to work
it's just the steam store except without any of the stuff that makes it good and instead of buying what you want they give you one thing for free every week
I literally only log on to claim free stuff
I haven't even installed the app to actually play any of them yet, I just lay claim on whatever's there whenever I remember to

yeah same here, I've downloaded a lot of free games off the epic games store. They're good games too, I don't get it either, but I'll take it

By the way, I think you would both get a real kick out of The Master and Margarita by Bulgakov, if you haven't read it already. Look into it, but not too deeply. Just go with it.

I think the translation by Diana Burgin and Katherine Tiernan O'Connor is considered the best and it's the complete novel, it's the one I read. Earlier translations were done from a censored version.

Which is a shame because the cover is fantastic.

But try and get this one:

cats rule, so i will in fact judge that book by its cover