Graffiti

[AMPEEEM]

How much is too much? Is there such a thing as tasteful graffiti?

I say yes, I always appreciate seeing graffiti, but then again, I've always been the type of person to write / draw on anything I got in my hand. I'm not like, yeah know, owner of land or trains, as well.

[Topcatyo]

I enjoy good graffiti.  I've taken pictures of graffiti I see anywhere that I think enhances the visual appeal of the area I'm in.

However if it's some douchebag tagging his name on the Alamo, fuck that shit.

[buttplug]

I like it in most cases.

[PEANUTBUTTERCLOCK]

I like spraypainting shit its fun

[FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK]

as with pretty much any other artform, its ruined by the 99.9% there are a few people who do quality graffiti beyond tagging CRUNK behind the walmart, and it can be pretty cool at times. its very very rare though and almost always requested/paid for (minus maybe someone like banksy dont quote me on that cause i really dont know)

tagging peoples property without permission is dumb as all hell

my thoughts exactly

[buttplug]

Banksy is a hack

[VCRClock]

Tagging people's property without permission is sort of an important part of graffiti culture, and occasionally part of what makes a piece impressive (e.g. trespassing and painting elaborate whole-car pieces on subway trains without being caught).

Choosing locations to tag consciously and judiciously is also important.

Then you get into style, artistic merit, and all of that.

[Thor]

Graffiti is art by self-intitled douches who go out and ruin other people stuff instead of using canves like a sane person. I enjoy the aesthetic of graffiti art, but I loath the kind of person that would draw it. Even worse than the gang bangers who put up signs to facilitate orginized crime are the misguided anarchists who think that they're making some sort of anti-establishment message; all they're really doing is damaging property that somebody worked hard to obtain (in the case of private property vandalism) or leaching tax payer dollars (in the case of government buildings; this leaching is in addition to their welfare checks and use of various public services. The irony is palpable).

EDIT: I can see no reason why art should require inflicting misery on others.

[DWARFINATORclock]

EDIT: I can see no reason why art should require inflicting misery on others.

i dont believe a troll like yourself can not see the reason why

[Thor]

i dont believe a troll like yourself can not see the reason why

Humor and art are very different things.

And of course, anybody who falls for my trolling has only themselves to blame; I mearly left the bait, it wasn't I who bit.

[DWARFINATORclock]

Humor and art are very different things.

but they dont have to be

[FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK]

Art and humor can be used together but a lot of graffiti isnt done humorously, or even artistically, its just done by idiots who think they're "street" and want people to recognize their I'm a edgy teen little gang.

[F U Clock]

As with most things, I try to see both sides. Graffiti is sort of like the Tyler Durden philosophy expressed in art form. Don't strive for a perfect, crisp, clean human society with pearl-white buildings when it's against our nature to be robots. Nothing is perfect. We're all going to die. Fuck it, let's have some fun and paint some shit up.

[I1I1I1I1I1I1I11111I1I1I1IIIIIII1I1I1I1I11I]

I love seeing interesting, artistic graffiti, but it annoys me when people just tag a building with their name or something like that. I guess I only like the graffiti that has some effort in it, and isn't just there to mess up someone's wall with slang.

[DigitalLemonClock]

even at a more base level of expression ie marking territory, display of ego, collective identity etc i think it is a powerful artistic medium because it exerts such a physical presence in the urban 'landscape' and becomes a manifestation of culture that challenges the established perceptional expectations of one's reality

it sometimes looks rlly bad

[Thor]

As with most things, I try to see both sides. Graffiti is sort of like the Tyler Durden philosophy expressed in art form. Don't strive for a perfect, crisp, clean human society with pearl-white buildings when it's against our nature to be robots. Nothing is perfect. We're all going to die. Fuck it, let's have some fun and paint some shit up.

If they just want to change a town aesthetic why don't they paint on their own damn house instead of shitting all over somebody elses hard earned real estate? If somebody spends decades maintaining a company to the point they own valuable city property I think they have more right to enjoy it then some punk kid who's never worked a day in his life.

[F U Clock]

why don't they paint on their own damn house

Lol what house?

Graffiti is counter-establishment. It's the guerilla-terrorism of the art world. The MAN has oppressed them, spat on them, kicked them to the curb, but they can't stop them from spreading the message under the cover of night. The clean white city is the establishment. Graffiti is the expression of a counter-culture demanding attention and letting the world know of its presence.

[Topcatyo]

also i have no complaint with them painting up unused trains or abandoned buildings

[Thor]

Lol what house?

Graffiti is counter-establishment. It's the guerilla-terrorism of the art world. The MAN has oppressed them, spat on them, kicked them to the curb, but they can't stop them from spreading the message under the cover of night. The clean white city is the establishment. Graffiti is the expression of a counter-culture demanding attention and letting the world know of its presence.

"Damn the man! I'll show the government for making me too lazy to work by defacing the private property of an entrepreneur!" says the jobless man holding his welfare check at the food bank that he got to on the city bus on state funded highways. He then returns to his state funded low rent apartments to contemplate what style he should write his own name in on a random store.

Truly this is a tale of a heroic champion of independence.


[/strawman]

[F U Clock]

"Damn the man! I'll show the government for making me too lazy to work by defacing the private property of an entrepreneur!" says the jobless man holding his welfare check at the food bank that he got to on the city bus on state funded highways. He then returns to his state funded low rent apartments to contemplate what style he should write his own name in on a random store.

Truly this is a tale of a heroic champion of independence.


[/strawman]

Spoken like a true honkey. SHOULD I SHINE YA SHOES, CRACKAMAN!?