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Should I expel this kid?

Farted by F U Clock, May 10, 2008, 11:58:31 AM

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FileCabinetClock

Quote from: HorseChestnutClock;1306326Put a note in his bag or desk or where ever, saying "I know your are stealing. You will be expelled."
After reading this he'll probably stop stealing.

i like this one

Quote from: Steve;1306335TAKE HIM DOWN.

this too
the man, the legend

joliet_jane

Warning still sounds like a good idea first. He clearly doesn't seem to think that cutting corners for some extra spare time will ever have consequences.

I once did a group project with someone for a large research paper.  We both did half, and I said I'd would edit them together.  I found out I had to change 60% of his because it was plagiarized verbatim.  I fixed it all and turned it in, but I never confronted him about it. I actually do believe he thought it was okay to do it!  And he was older, too.

Steve


FileCabinetClock

Quote from: joliet_jane;1306353Warning still sounds like a good idea first. He clearly doesn't seem to think that cutting corners for some extra spare time will ever have consequences.

I once did a group project with someone for a large research paper.  We both did half, and I said I'd would edit them together.  I found out I had to change 60% of his because it was plagiarized verbatim.  I fixed it all and turned it in, but I never confronted him about it. I actually do believe he thought it was okay to do it!  And he was older, too.

lots of people just don't understand plagiarism. some think that changing 3 words makes it ok, it's pretty stupid if you ask me :\
the man, the legend

joliet_jane

Quote from: ULTRA_CLOck;1306371lots of people just don't understand plagiarism. some think that changing 3 words makes it ok, it's pretty stupid if you ask me :\
That goes double for my situation because it was a graduate class! He was a bit older and had a job, so he must've thought "well we're not kids anymore, so surely we won't be suspected."  I'm proud that it got an A and was 90% my work, though.

BilliardBall10

Quote from: Coal;1306141Talk to him, it's not easy but do it, and warn him

do this.
 
talk him, and tell him taht he could get in deep trouble if he do that, not only in college, but any aspect in his life.
 
thieving is wrong. teach him, and give him, a lesson. warn him, that if he doesnt stops this, and make his OWN stuff, he will get expeled.
 
warn him.
 
ps.im seriously, surprised clock crew. you mean, to expel this kid, and deny him of every future, and/or of every way to make a career? well, sure, he traced a pic, of someone famous, and passed it as his own work, but i may ask, you WTF. did he steal something from a bank? did he murder someone? no. so, why so much hate? (again, for those who will go batshit insane of me, i repeat, I FUCKING HATE art theft, yet i believe the kids need to learn this, by TEACHING). so, i really wonder, if it was you (the other clocks) you would expel him, right? for teh trace. woa, and to think that some clocks trace, woa. very cool
yet, he needs to be warned
 
FU, i think you should tell the kid the risk he's been into. if the says then, that he will continue his way, f*ck it. let him be. dont become a snitch.
anything but a snitch.

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Hamsa Clock

Blackmail him for sexual favors.

Thor

Would you not call the cops if somebody robbed your house because it could "ruin their life" if they got caught?

Quote from: FloppyDiskClock;1306456Ask him bullshit about it during a presentation.

Making up bullshit answers to any question you can think of isn't going to be hard if he keeps his cool.

This is why confronting the kid first is also stupid.
Quote from: MafiaMettaurWhat the hell is with that shit you posted? You know what, I'm joining the Locks, just to stop stuff like you!
Quote from: polyhedronclockYou're a fucking clock, what else do you have?
To be fair, you don't have anything. Clocks are just machines that tick.

LuxenbergClock

Quote from: Norton I;1306404Blackmail him for sexual favors.

Nevermind what I said, do this
QuoteBob awesome

FileCabinetClock

Quote from: ɹoɥʇ;1306463Would you not call the cops if somebody robbed your house because it could "ruin their life" if they got caught?

great job
the man, the legend

Arctic

Go through extra lengths to work near him at the start of his next project and find out the illustration he's doing.  Then find that illustration, trace it and add like two or three things to it and don't show anyone it until the day you crit.

OcarinaClock

Just warn him.  If he keeps it up, crucify him.  Make an idiot of him in front of the whole class.  When he shows his artwork you can be like "Hey, that looks a lot like (Insert Artists name here) drawing.  It almost looks exactly like it".  His face will go red in seconds.
APRIL 23, 2008



Never forget.
Quote from: GearBox;1349678The Clock Crew may die, IF we don\'t get more people like CrustClock, who are good at flash. Thankfully, people are coming back (ie, CorpseGrinder).

ChickenClock

Quote from: China Clock;1306249Claiming credit for a work you did not do and at the same time surpassing others with this stolen work is not trivial.

First of, this will greatly boost his grades and give him an unfair advantage over others in a market that is rather slim as-is. Thus causing someone more deserving to be out of a job.

Secondly, as stated before, this is something that will turn into a huge deal when he actually moves on. Either in the form of incompetence or continued plagiarism. In either case, what the fuck is he doing on that workforce?

Lastly, he obviously doesn't care about the fact that plagiarism is wrong, he doesn't have much of a moral highground to stand on to complain about being snitched on.

Just get his ass thrown out. Stop feeling sorry for people who don't deserve it.

Snitching is still mean, mister :mad:

Don't do it, FU. We've all stolen a little bit in our life you can turn a blind eye to this. No one will care.

Lump Clock

Ultimate Damnation. Bring the hammer down and crush his hopes of taking the high road!

WreckingBallClock

#94
Quote from: FloppyDiskClock;1306456Ask him bullshit about it during a presentation.
Good...
Quote from: Quill;1306215I say just fuck with him. Just little things like if he gets up and walks away open a text and leave him a message like "I know" or "Cheater"
Fucking with people is more fun than getting him expelled.
Better...
Quote from: Norton I;1306404Blackmail him for sexual favors.
BINGO!

Quote from: Hideous Whore;1306473Just warn him. If he keeps it up, crucify him. Make an idiot of him in front of the whole class. When he shows his artwork you can be like "Hey, that looks a lot like (Insert Artists name here) drawing. It almost looks exactly like it". His face will go red in seconds.
I think that Quill and Ocarina should splice these ideas together.

You should send him little "things" to tell him you know. Psych him out. Like e-mails from IknowEverything@gmail.com (IknowEverything@gmail.com) and then get you and a couple of friends from that class to start talking to him about deviantArt. You should all say things like "Hey! Have you ever seen deviantArt? You should go there. You seem like your work would... fit right in." and "That picture looks even better than some of (insert the true artist's name of recent picture) stuff." All sorts of shit just to fuck with him. Then, you should see if you can get him to copy some of YOUR work. Then, prepare that smae piece, and showcase yours right after him. "Uhh, yeah. I actually had a very similar piece..." You can prove its yours by logging into your deivantArt. But go with that first part for a while. Bonus points if the guy doesn't know  your friends that are helping you.

HeinekenClock

In ten years he might be doing better in business than you are, stealing your customers if you don't take him down now while he's still vulnerable!

China Clock

Quote from: ChickenClock;1306482Snitching is still mean, mister :mad:

Don't do it, FU. We've all stolen a little bit in our life you can turn a blind eye to this. No one will care.

Mean? Who gives a shit, it's the right thing to do.

Stealing isn't the same as plagiarism, and the only reason no one will care is because nobody knows. They all think he's fan-fucking-tastic.

Quote from: billiardball10;1306402warn him.
 
ps.im seriously, surprised clock crew. you mean, to expel this kid, and deny him of every future

Warning someone simply doesn't work if they're the cruising-along type of person, trust me on this. I have sufficient personal experience of that shit.

And since when was getting somebody their _deserved_ grade a wrong thing to do? We're not actually advocating expulsion, we're advocating him not passing a course he didn't make his own work for.

ChickenClock

Quote from: China Clock;1306527Mean? Who gives a shit, it's the right thing to do.

Stealing isn't the same as plagiarism, and the only reason no one will care is because nobody knows. They all think he's fan-fucking-tastic.

No you're mean, sorry.

ChickenClock

Quote from: ChickenClock;1306530No you're mean, sorry.

hey chinaman, your post quoting this should atleast be 9 paragraphs long

China Clock

Quote from: ChickenClock;1306530No you're mean, sorry.

I still don't care about your outdated opinion. There's no reason he should be sticking up for that guy.