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So after 3 weeks Amazon finally gave me Red Dead Redemption

Farted by Topcatyo, June 09, 2010, 12:27:38 AM

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Topcatyo

Hey this game is pretty neat.  You guys heard of it?

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NintendrCkolc

I'd imagine it goes something like this

"Hey i'm the protagonist who has a single minded goal, whats up"

"Hey I might know something that'll lead you to another something which will help you reach your goal but first you must do *insert pointless task/fetch quest #49849038 here*"

"K brb lol"

repeat until final mission.


NintendrCkolc

I mean, that's how most Rockstar games I play seem to work...

Slash

Quote from: Patches O'Houlihan;1758156I mean, that's how most Rockstar games I play seem to work...

That's how all games that use any form of quests work.

NintendrCkolc

Quote from: Boy George;1758161That's how all games that use any form of quests work.

yeah but the quests are usually more interesting then "Pick up person A and bring them here" or "Go get this and bring it here" or "Go here and kill X amount of people and come back" or "Drive around an obstacle course in a specific vehicle".

Alot of open world/Sandbox games seem to have similiar problems. Assasins Creed 1 for instance...

Also, not every game that uses quests recycles the same quests over and over. Rockstar is by far the most notorious when it comes to this.

WiiClock

Quote from: Patches O'Houlihan;1758164yeah but the quests are usually more interesting then "Pick up person A and bring them here" or "Go get this and bring it here" or "Go here and kill X amount of people and come back" or "Drive around an obstacle course in a specific vehicle".

Alot of open world/Sandbox games seem to have similiar problems. Assasins Creed 1 for instance...

Also, not every game that uses quests recycles the same quests over and over. Rockstar is by far the most notorious when it comes to this.

shut the fuck up
HELLO EVERYONE.

Topcatyo

I dunno, I'm having fun.  I just did a whole bunch of different shit and every second of it was awesome.

Nightmare Clock

ITT: Nintendo complains about the formula 75% of video games have had since they existed

and topcatyo fucks bitches up
Quote from: topcatyo;1758179The Clock Crew: Officially endorsed by  schizophrenics.
  So if you feel like making some new friends, imaginary or not, why  not come to the Clock Crew, where you\'re guaranteed a seat and a helpful  instructional pamphlet when you walk in, so long as you don\'t act like a  twat.

                                             
                                                             
 

Topcatyo

Quote from: Nightmare Clock;1758177ITT: Nintendo complains about the formula 75% of video games have had since they existed

and topcatyo fucks bitches up
I shot a ton of bitches right in the face.

At one point a guy was holding some other guy's daughter hostage, so I snuck up and hid around the corner, and then just popped out and shot him in the face.  It wouldn't have been nearly as satisfying had the game not made it that shooting people in the face blows a huge fucking hole in their head.

It was fucking awesome.  I paused the game and masturbated to car parts after that.

TequilaClock

posting again here to also say that's how formulas in adventure games are, but obviously what makes them fun is HOW you do it. This industry would have died decades ago if we all cared about the basic structure.

TequilaClock


Topcatyo

Quote from: Patches O'Houlihan;1758154I'd imagine it goes something like this

"Hey i'm the protagonist who has a single minded goal, whats up"

"Hey I might know something that'll lead you to another something which will help you reach your goal but first you must do *insert pointless task/fetch quest #49849038 here*"

"K brb lol"

repeat until final mission.
ITT Nintendo complains about every video game ever made including Half-Life, Zelda, Mario, Diablo, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid...

NintendrCkolc

Quote from: Nightmare Clock;1758177ITT: Nintendo complains about the formula 75% of video games have had since they existed


There are so many different things wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start.

All i'm saying is RDR is just another GTA clone thats bound to get repetitive in a matter of days.

Sure games like Fallout, Diablo, Zelda, System Shock 2, KotOR, ME, have the same "quest formula" but you missed my point entirely. Most games dont get repetitive where as I have yet to play a Rockstar game that wasnt repetitive. Can any of you honestly sit here and say you haven't gotten bored with GTA after playing it for a few weeks?

NintendrCkolc

Quote from: topcatyo;1758185ITT Nintendo complains about every video game ever made including Half-Life, Zelda, Mario, Diablo, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid...

I dont remember driving from point a to point b in any of those games.

And since when does Half-life, Mario, and Metal Gear Solid have a quest system? I mean I guess you could count "The princess is in another console" but come on that was like 1985.

Nightmare Clock

I didn't disagree, I'm just saying - Fallout, Zelda, KotOR, ME, etc. also get boring in a few weeks. That's kinda how it works.

Also how come you didn't yell at topcat >:C

Edit:
just kidding about yelling at topcat
Quote from: topcatyo;1758179The Clock Crew: Officially endorsed by  schizophrenics.
  So if you feel like making some new friends, imaginary or not, why  not come to the Clock Crew, where you\'re guaranteed a seat and a helpful  instructional pamphlet when you walk in, so long as you don\'t act like a  twat.

                                             
                                                             
 

NintendrCkolc

Now see, I knew you were gonna say that.

I played ME from start to finish doing every side quest and multiple playthroughs to see its different endings, outcomes, and plot lines. Bioware manages to make their games REPLAYABLE as opposed to repetitive.

All together I put over 200 hours into the original ME just on multiple playthroughs. I made a 15 hour game last for more then just a couple weeks.

I cant do this in say, GTAIV. Why? Because its all the same shit. Nothing I do effects anything else other then advancing a linear story that I hardly care about. Oh sure I can blow shit up and beat up hookers but thats only fun for so long.

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to me, discovering this for the first time was infinitely more entertaining and rewarding then beating up a hooker and stealing money.

NintendrCkolc

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to me, discovering this for the first time was infinitely more entertaining and rewarding then beating up a hooker and stealing money.

Topcatyo

Quote from: Patches O'Houlihan;1758197I dont remember driving from point a to point b in any of those games.
No, you walked instead.

QuoteAnd since when does Half-life, Mario, and Metal Gear Solid have a quest system? I mean I guess you could count "The princess is in another console" but come on that was like 1985.
I'm not talking quests specifically, but every game basically consisted of a ton of deviations from your main goal.  I have repurposed your dialogue to fit Half-Life, Mario, and Metal Gear Solid.

Quote from: Half-Life"..."
"Oh hey, Gordon, I know you want to get out of this science lab, but can you go and do an emergency shutdown of the station?"
"..."
"Oh, hey, Gordon, now that you've done an emergency shutdown of the station can you go and destroy some blind tentacle monster?"
"..."
"Oh, hey, Gordon, I know you want to destroy some blind tentacle monster but can you go down three separate routes and activate three different"
I've stopped that one there.

Quote from: Super Mario 64"It's-a me!  Mario!  I'ma gonna get you, Bowser!"
"Oh, hey Mario, before you get bowser can you get 70 stars in several different levels."
"Um, sure, let me just go in this world here..."
"Oh, hey Mario!  I'm that Koopa guy let's race mothafucka!"
Some time passes.
"Oh, hey Mario!  I'm that Koopa guy let's race in a different level mothafucka!"

I'd do Metal Gear Solid but honestly you get the point.

I'll be honest Nintendo from what I've played of Red Dead I have haven't done the same thing in two different missions yet.  You haven't even played the game (I don't expect you to) but it sounds to me like you're getting angry because...
Actually, I don't have a reason, why are you being so angry?  Stop getting mad at video games, Jesus.