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Farted by Poltergeist, July 16, 2010, 05:08:18 PM

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Poltergeist

AHHH This film buddy! This film buddy!
I copypasted from my website in my sig because I'm really lazy!

Inception is terrifically difficult to talk about anyway, because the films plot details have been kept so wonderfully concealed so far that to talk about pretty much anything could diminish the effect of the film. Oh right, yeah, it's really, really good, too. Just needed to slip that in somewhere.

So, what I'm going to do is talk about a few ideas in the film without actually spoiling plot details as I know how difficult it is to simply "stop reading" something (but, I should add I would consider the ideas in a film to be some of the most important aspects). Ready? Okay. Inception is a film concerning Solipsism. It doesn't really start that way, but it moves there eventually. However, Inception is not like The Matrix; it does not tell us our lives are illusions. The films message seems to be the delicious one that solipsism on it's own is dangerous enough (and the idea certainly is a destructive one). "The idea" - "the cancer" referred to in the film is the fallibility of being awake. "They come here to wake up".

The movie asks the audience if we can distinguish between reality and dreams, then ingeniously makes its dream sequences as realistic as possible. Both in terms of believability, and the fact that on several ocassions we're unaware we're even in a dream at all, to really drive the theme home. Of course, the film falls back on the sci-fi setting, so the questions don't really apply to us, but they at the very least raise the interesting topic of debate (and again in a more interesting way of just telling us the world in the film is fictional). It's unclear what side the film takes on the solipsism debate though; on the one hand the movie would lack the "catharsis" Cobb says is required if the notion of solipsism wasn't conquered in some form; however, what's conquered may not be the idea of solipsism so much as it's negatives effects. I will be spoiling the final shot of the film now, and although I don't think it will really damage viewing of the film, it may be better to avoid reading my thoughts on it if you haven't seen it yet. The final shot shows Cobb reuinited with his children; he is happy, finally, after so much strife and so much torture from his own subconcious. We see the top is still spinning over their laughter, and while it does seem to slow down slightly, we don't see it fall. The top throughout the movie, the "totem" is something that keeps the characters certain of where they are; that they are the dreamer, or at least are viewing the world unaltered. The fact the top is left spinning at the end of the film seems to be suggesting the possibility that Cobb remains in a dream (though I doubt he actually is) - however, he is happy. Does it really matter if Cobb is dreaming? He's happy now, finally.

SilverCherryClock

watched it today, its way cool. you wrote a lot of words about it but yeah its good.

patriotclock

I didnt read any of the op because I don't care, but the movie was really really good.

pop-tart

Sorry man, I don't want to ruin the movie by reading your review.

Besides. Not sure I'd trust the insight of someone who throws the word 'solipsism' around five times to sound profound but can't spell delicious or thinks geniously is a word.

Poltergeist

Quote from: Pop-Tart;1768963Sorry man, I don't want to ruin the movie by reading your review.

Besides. Not sure I'd trust the insight of someone who throws the word 'solipsism' around five times to sound profound but can't spell delicious or thinks geniously is a word.

My only defense is it was very late, but errors that obvious are unforgivable, I'm sorry. Also maybe watch the movie before you decide to say I'm just trying to sound profound. The entire running theme of the film is solipsism. Heck, it's a movie that almost entirely takes place in dreams, of course it will be.

RobClock

I watched the 'Escape to the movies' review and after massive spoiler warnings, which i ignored, he described the movie as Freddy Krueger mixed with James Bond.

After hearing that, I am definitely going to see this movie.

Biblo

Christ what a film
WHAT A FILM

Everyone needs to go see it and make it a fucking massive blockbuster. So there'll be no excuses for dumb as nuts shit films being made.

Also, that ending shot. Oh man, what an asshole Nolan is. Well not really obviously. But man oh man.

Poltergeist

Quote from: Biblo;1768987Christ what a film
WHAT A FILM

Everyone needs to go see it and make it a fucking massive blockbuster. So there'll be no excuses for dumb as nuts shit films being made.

Also, that ending shot. Oh man, what an asshole Nolan is. Well not really obviously. But man oh man.

I'd say it's pretty much the only way the film could have ended though, given everything that lead up to it.

Kombucha

I want to see it. I've heard nothing but great things about it so far.

Poltergeist

It feels kind of weird for me to urge people to see this, considering it isn't some indie zero-budget film thar needs the attention, but if this becomes a blockbuster it can only mean good things.

Smarter blockbusters please, Hollywood

pop-tart

Quote from: Clay Puffington;1768973My only defense is it was very late, but errors that obvious are unforgivable, I'm sorry. Also maybe watch the movie before you decide to say I'm just trying to sound profound. The entire running theme of the film is solipsism. Heck, it's a movie that almost entirely takes place in dreams, of course it will be.

I'm only doggin ya, bro.

patriotclock

Quote from: Clay Puffington;1769021It feels kind of weird for me to urge people to see this, considering it isn't some indie zero-budget film thar needs the attention, but if this becomes a blockbuster it can only mean good things.

Smarter blockbusters please, Hollywood

Woah aren't you the trendy lil fella

TequilaClock

The only thing I knew about this movie was the bizarre scene of the ground flipping over like paper.

I read a guy on Twitter yesterday saying how damn awesome it was, I guess I should check it out too.

Poltergeist

Quote from: Nasty Nas;1769954wait so did the kids age at all?

Yeah a bit. We don't know how long Cobb's been away though

Also

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PowerGloveClock

Quote from: FLOUNDERINYOBUTT;1837615I think Kodiak is the only person on  this entire website who dislikes Slurpee. I still dont understand how  thats possible. He\'s so loveable and funny. Every guy wants to be his  friend and every girl wants to date him. Understandably Slurpee is not a  very happy person.

patriotclock

Quote from: Nasty Nas;1769954wait so did the kids age at all?

At the end the kids are in the same clothes and the exact same position as his memory of them. This makes it pretty obvious its a dream at the end. Also on the phone with his daughter she sounds older than she looks at the end for further proof.

Poltergeist

Quote from: PatriotClock;1770089At the end the kids are in the same clothes and the exact same position as his memory of them. This makes it pretty obvious its a dream at the end. Also on the phone with his daughter she sounds older than she looks at the end for further proof.

However, the fact that he actually see's his childrens faces (which he never allowed himself to do in his dreams/memories) and that the top wobbles at all could indicate it's reality.

Poltergeist


Clocktopus

My brother said it was great.

Topcatyo

Just got back from seeing it.  Best movie of the year, fucking awesome, loved every second of it.
That top definitely stopped spinning.