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So Osama bin Laden is dead

Farted by AC Slater, May 01, 2011, 09:49:47 PM

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Marlin Clock

The taking of a life is the worst thing that can be done. The celebration of it is nothing but appalling and disgraceful for all involved. You have been told to love your friends and hate your enemies. How is that different from anyone else in the world? Do terrorists not love those that love them? Do they not hate those that hate them? We must strive to love all people that hate us, and hope that those who hate, those who wish death upon others, see that it is not the right way, see that the only good and just way is to live ones life in peace with his fellow man.

BTW I know that's all straight from Matthew corpsey I just wanna put that out there.

Silly Putty Clock

Quote from: RibsClock;1818741If you dislike my opinion on that point do feel at liberty to either explain logically the flaw in their reasoning or to agree to disagree.

Well, I think the main difference here is that we each have totally different values. You apparently place a lot of value on human life, regardless of the circumstances. Which I suppose I can respect.
I'm very relativistic when it comes to human life, however. And likewise, I'm relativistic when it comes to suffering. I think your view of things is overly black-and-white. After all, there is a significant difference between cheering at the death of a mastermind and actively torturing several soldiers for the fun of it. The mastermind orchestrates attacks; the soldiers are merely doing their jobs. That isn't even getting into the difference between torturing a person and merely celebrating the fact that they're no longer alive. The core drive behind it, seeing someone on the other side get hurt, may well be the same, but the consequences of the actions and the sources of satisfaction are very different.
Obviously, American soldiers torturing terrorists and suspected terrorists is just as horrible as when it happens the other way around. And just try to tell me that Iraqis wouldn't have been totally justified in cheering on the assassination of Bush. Or Cheney, I suppose.
I will admit that I was wrong about it being entirely based on vengeance. The closure aspect is important, and I think that to a lot of Americans the symbolic value of his death is what really matters.To the rest, I think it's a case of Kick The Son Of A Bitch.
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Topcatyo

Quote from: Marlin Clock;1818763The taking of a life is the worst thing that can be done. The celebration of it is nothing but appalling and disgraceful for all involved. You have been told to love your friends and hate your enemies. How is that different from anyone else in the world? Do terrorists not love those that love them? Do they not hate those that hate them? We must strive to love all people that hate us, and hope that those who hate, those who wish death upon others, see that it is not the right way, see that the only good and just way is to live ones life in peace with his fellow man.

BTW I know that's all straight from Matthew corpsey I just wanna put that out there.
I'm all for loving your enemy and stuff, but Bin Laden is kinda responsible for the deaths of a lot of people, American citizens not included.

Ribs and you can be as appalled at me as you want, I'm really happy the dude's dead.


Topcatyo

That eagle isn't supposed to be because "America fuck yeah" and all that stuff, I actually just really like that picture.

Silly Putty Clock

Quote from: topcatyo;1818788I'm all for loving your enemy and stuff, but Bin Laden is kinda responsible for the deaths of a lot of people, American citizens not included.

Ribs and you can be as appalled at me as you want, I'm really happy the dude's dead.


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AC Slater

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Quote from: Zen Micro Clock;1818829And with this thread, we have brought about the revival of the debate forum.

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OvenmittClock

oh no a bearded dude who killed people got killed himself.
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Silly Putty Clock

Quote from: RibsClock;1818847I'm sorry but I don't see it that way, and I think it's a dangerous self-delusion that falls into the category of "oh when WE do it it's different. WE'RE different from them".
hey look at that there was a whole second half to my post dealing with that exact issue incredible isn't it
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RabidClock

I'm just glad the guy that caused us to go from peace time to war isn't able to cause any more trouble personally. I was just trying to get money for college, so he helped ruin the last 10 years of my life, albeit greed and prestige had a hand in it as well. Regardless, if he hadn't been born, there's a good chance I wouldn't have deployed 7 times.


Biggskoo

Quote from: Cowboy Bebop;1818858hey look at that there was a whole second half to my post dealing with that exact issue incredible isn't it

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F U Clock

Quote from: Marlin Clock;1818763The taking of a life is the worst thing that can be done. The celebration of it is nothing but appalling and disgraceful for all involved. You have been told to love your friends and hate your enemies. How is that different from anyone else in the world? Do terrorists not love those that love them? Do they not hate those that hate them? We must strive to love all people that hate us, and hope that those who hate, those who wish death upon others, see that it is not the right way, see that the only good and just way is to live ones life in peace with his fellow man.

BTW I know that's all straight from Matthew corpsey I just wanna put that out there.

That's one of the biggest hypocrisies of supposedly "Christian" politicians. A true follower of Christ would, if attacked, do nothing. Or find some weird nation-wide means of turning the other cheek.

Biggskoo

normative ethics and the political applications of it is such a fucking unwieldy topic

DWARFINATORclock

Quote from: biggs;1818864this is what it's like to be on the staff

i was gonna post this but you beat me to it

Biggskoo

oh i read it but there was a reason i responded as i did

miracle fruit

Quote from: RibsClock;1818847I'm sorry but I don't see it that way, and I think it's a dangerous self-delusion that falls into the category of "oh when WE do it it's different. WE'RE different from them".
i cant be the only one who doesnt have this self-delusion and is still ecstatic that this piece of shit is dead

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Quote from: biggs;1818871oh i read it but there was a reason i responded as i did

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AstronautClock

Quote from: biggs;1818871oh i read it but there was a reason i responded as i did
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Quote from: biggs;1818871oh i read it but there was a reason i responded as i did

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Silly Putty Clock

Quote from: biggs;1818871oh i read it but there was a reason i responded as i did

haha, oh my god :lo5:
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