http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/day-after-gay-teens-suicide-lawmaker-says-gays-not-mentally-healthy-adult-human-beings/politics/2012/01/24/33596

Yes, they are actually trying to pass a bill that allows bullying if its for religious or moral reasons.

Tenesee is a backwards mixed up world, i wouldnt be surprised if they brought back slavery at this rate. Then before you know it well be dealing with a civil war 2 except this time its personal.

the guy's a bigot and a terrible person for trying to encourage shit like that. really hoping he gets some sort of backlash from this bullshit he's trying to pull.

well the good news is that there are plenty of other states that that gay people can move to to (hopefully) escape that kinda bullshit.

is it the perfect option?  no, but it's better than living in tennesee

I'm not gay but I wouldn't live in Tennessee anyway.

Quote from: PEANUTBUTTERCLOCK;1891361Tenesee is a backwards mixed up world, i wouldnt be surprised if they brought back slavery at this rate.

They wouldn't need to "bring it back" because slavery already still exists all over America in the form of the Prison Industrial Complex.

Quote from: EnglishClock;1891368They wouldn't need to "bring it back" because slavery already still exists all over America in the form of the Prison Industrial Complex.

Wow, I can't believe this is real. So many problems of hate and repression.

Quote from: Lump Clock;1891370Wow, I can't believe this is real. So many problems of hate and repression.

That article barely touches the surface of information about it, so if you're willing to become more aware and informed about 21st century slavery in your own country I highly recommend doing some research. There's a very good book called "Are prisons obsolete?" by Angela Y. Davis which you can preview the first 20 pages of here

California is actually one of the states that puts more of your tax money in to the expansion of prisons than in to education.

But that's different. You choose to be a criminal, you can't choose to be gay. Trust me, I've tried.

Thread kind of got derailed because peanutbutter mentioned slavery, yeah it's a different topic.
 However, in response to your comment, consider the fact that the majority of prisoners are non-violent offenders, for example merely being in possession of a "forbidden" plant. Combined with the fact that the only possible conclusion that can happen from identifying as a criminal (definition:someone who has broken the law, AKA all of us) is that you can be put in prison,  it's completely unreasonable to suggest someone would actively choose to be a criminal if they had better options given their circumstances. Laws are written in a way that allows for the maximum amount of people possible to potentially be locked up. Your government chooses who and who isn't a criminal.

I didn't have to read further than :

John Ragan, a Southern Baptist, pro-life, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-education Republican.

Now lets highlight the bad parts in red.

John Ragan, a Southern Baptist, pro-life, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-education Republican

Somehow people like this man end up as lawmakers and other high positions with way too much sway over everybody else.

touching briefly upon the prison industrial complex subject, that's a subject that makes me sick to my stomach that i know i will never have the power to do anything about

Quote from: EnglishClock;1891368They wouldn't need to "bring it back" because slavery already still exists all over America in the form of the Prison Industrial Complex.

Oftentimes fed by our draconian anti-drug laws.

Quote from: Buttplug;1891401Oftentimes fed by our draconian anti-drug laws.

Yep. Drug prohibition is the #1 tool used for getting more slaves, since it instantly categorizes a massive amount of non-violent citizens as criminals. They make up the majority of prisoners. That's one of the main reasons they will fight so hard to keep things like pot from becoming completely legal, there's far too much investment in slavery. Smokers are low-hanging fruit and there's millions upon millions of them in the US alone, if suddenly all those people weren't breaking any laws then authorities might have to actually spend more time focusing on murderers/rapists to try and make up for lost profit..

Is it REALLY that hard to not smoke pot? I mean, seriously?


I've never had trouble not smoking it.

The fact that you seem to simultaneously think it's okay to smoke pot while also saying the punishment is ridiculous is just hypocritical. The very fact that it has a ridiculous punishment is enough to make it I'm a edgy teen to smoke pot, regardless of what the plant actually does. I'm all for making marijuana legal, but as it is NOW only an antisocial FOOL would have enough weed to get arrested in his possession.

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Quote from: Thor;1891432Is it REALLY that hard to not smoke pot? I mean, seriously?


I've never had trouble not smoking it.

The fact that you seem to simultaneously think it's okay to smoke pot while also saying the punishment is ridiculous is just hypocritical. The very fact that it has a ridiculous punishment is enough to make it I'm a edgy teen to smoke pot, regardless of what the plant actually does. I'm all for making marijuana legal, but as it is NOW only an antisocial FOOL would have enough weed to get arrested in his possession.

Here's my response:

QuoteMost folks who resolved to cut down on coffee this year are driven by the simple desire for self-improvement.

But for coffee drinkers in 17th-century Turkey, there was a much more concrete motivating force: a big guy with a sword.

Sultan Murad IV, a ruler of the Ottoman Empire, would not have been a fan of Starbucks. Under his rule, the consumption of coffee was a capital offense.

The sultan was so intent on eradicating coffee that he would disguise himself as a commoner and stalk the streets of Istanbul with a hundred-pound broadsword. Unfortunate coffee drinkers were decapitated as they sipped.

Murad IVââ,¬â,,¢s successor was more lenient. The punishment for a first offense was a light cudgeling. Caught with coffee a second time, the perpetrator was sewn into a leather bag and tossed in the river.

But people still drank coffee. Even with the sultan at the front door with a sword and the executioner at the back door with a sewing kit, they still wanted their daily cup of joe. And thatââ,¬â,,¢s the history of coffee in a bean skin: Old habits die hard. ââ,¬â€Adam Cole

You make a stupid ban on something that people enjoy doing, people aren't going to listen to your stupid ban.  Along with it, just like Prohibition had severe and irreversible negative impacts on the economy, as well as leading to the creation of organized crime, I imagine the same goes for the banning of weed and making prisoners work for cents a day instead of actually hiring citizens and paying them an honest wage.

Shit's fucked up and bullshit.

Downloading music is illegal.  Have you done that?  I could stop right now if I wanted to.

Yo Topcat, that's a nice post but he is obviously trolling. lol

Quote from: EnglishClock;1891435Yo Topcat, that's a nice post but he is obviously trolling. lol

I'm aware, but it's a thought I've had for a while now without any reasonable place to vent it so I was glad to jump on the opportunity.

Quote from: EnglishClock;1891382Thread kind of got derailed because peanutbutter mentioned slavery

Lol i had no idea it would happen

in my opinion educating people on the fact that something as shitty as the prison industrial complex exists is a good way to derail a thread