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Farted by FluxCapacitorClock, July 13, 2008, 12:21:47 AM

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Lyndon Johnson was pretty cool except for the whole Vietnam war thing.

He's maybe the only president to both send thousands of people to bloody deaths overseas while making major strides in civil rights for those who survived (and he said it was JFK's idea so more people would support it) He is also responsible for the best political ad campaign I've ever seen.

I didn't know about Roosevelt carrying on a speech after being shot. That kicks ass.

Marlin Clock

Quote from: AMPM MAN;1367830Wow, a lot of you seem to have a really bad grip on reality
Way to give facts and prove a point, Captain Ad Hominem.

RomanClock

Quote from: CorpseGrinderClock;1367903Rawanda and Darfur?

I don't know why we don't hear about this in the news everyday? Its pretty messed up. If we saw it on the news like we saw the Iraq war, I'm 100% sure we would do something.
lemayo lol :soups:

Marlin Clock

Quote from: CorpseGrinderClock;1367903Seriously, there are so many wars and such fought "for the liberation of so and so oppressed people"

And when genuine oppression and murder is going on, we sit on our hands and don't do anything, maybe pass resolutions "condemning" it, but really in general just using "justice" as an excuse to pursue our own interests, it's absolutely appalling.

And I don't just mean my country, though we are certainly incredibly guilty in this regard, but I have yet to see any country truly work to wipe out poverty, starvation, or earnestly use their ill begotten military might to actually try and stop the brutality perpetrated in countries unable to stop it themselves.

If it was really about liberating the Iraqi people, or liberating the Afghani people, or something like that, why isn't it that something concrete was done in that regard before our personal interests got involved?

If we really cared so much about things like that anyway, why is it that we do nothing on things like Rawanda and Darfur? And if we care about the welfare of others so much, why do we put in so much to bomb them but not nearly as much to build the infrastructure and security for them so that we don't have to bomb them?

It simply doesn't make sense to me and never has.
You silly, George Bush doesn't care about black people!

Loki Clock

Quote from: Moose Clock;1367563There is no proof that the government recieved exact warnings of an attack

No, the AG just came right out and said it. That's not proof or anything.

Quoteand there is proof that Israel destroyed an Iraqi uranium enrichment facility.

Never heard of this.

QuoteChina and India are the two main causes for the price of oil and other resources in the world, they are using more and more while the supply stays the same.

But that's irrelevant unless you actually want to attack them for using a limited resource, which we're all doing.

QuoteNo one should praise Clinton, it wasn't him that paid off the debts, it was the governments plans at fixing the economy. He just rode through it acting like a hero, telling lies about how the democrats fixed the economy when they didn't. And if you want to talk about someone who could have prevented 911, talk about Clinton, he had a chance to capture Bin Laden but said no.

I suppose it's true he only took the credit, but he also didn't actively destroy the economy, like Bush did, and you can't blame him for not predicting the future attack.

QuoteObama will probably do something similar.

Conjecture.