Your favorite President?

[FluxCapacitorClock]

For me it's gotta be Nixon. His presidency was perfectly balanced between good and bad. Plus he's just interesting as hell to read about.

He,
Negotiated the first SALT treaty.
Opened China.
Ended the Vietnam War, ultimately.
Improved Soviet relations.

Yet,
Fucking Watergate.
Carrying the Vietnam War longer than necessary.
Being excessively secretive and paranoid.
Wiretapping on some journalists to plug leaks.




CLOCKCREW, who's your favorite?

[Kodiakclock]

Bill Clinton

He was the shit dude

[peyoteclock]

trudeau

[Slurpee]

Teddy Roosevelt
http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/showthread.php?p=1105656#post1105656

I read once that he was known to read two books a night for several years, and was able to off-handedly recall very specific details from any of them in spite of his only brief contact with them.

Fascinating man. An entrancing and charismatic speaker (in his time, it was said that even people who didn't like him or agree with him still loved to hear him speak,) brought life back into the executive office for the first time since the assassination of Lincoln.
And the way he came into power was fantastic. He was an anachronistically Kennedy-esque figure in 19th century american politics; a progressive member of the Republican party who became a prominent political figure (governor of new york) at a young age, and before having a chance to become jaded and bitter took a head-on charge toward the presidency. The old-line members of the party saw to it that to keep him from becoming president, they'd instead satiate him with the Vice Presidency, but after the assassination of President McKinley, he was constitutionally sworn in, causing 19th century american industrialist and american republican party politician Mark Hanna to remark, "That damned cowboy is president now."
Not that anything could have stopped him. Roosevelt was also a self-made war hero- knowing that a reputation as a military leader was an easy ticket into the presidency, TR is widely held to have pressured McKinley into the Spanish-American War, where he basically invented the staged political photo-op.

I'm also a pretty big fan of Lincoln, but Roosevelt borders on mythical.

[AMPEEEM]

Abe Lincoln, Teddy Rossevelt and Thomas Jefferson, and a shoutout to Herbert Hoover and Bobby  Kennedy

[Folder]

In 1844, the Democrats were split
The three nominees for the presidential candidate
Were Martin Van Buren, a former president and an abolitionist
James Buchanan, a moderate
Louis Cass, a general and expansionist
From Nashville came a dark horse riding up
He was James K. Polk, Napoleon of the Stump

Austere, severe, he held few people dear
His oratory filled his foes with fear
The factions soon agreed
He's just the man we need
To bring about victory
Fulfill our manifest destiny
And annex the land the Mexicans command
And when the votes were cast the winner was
Mister James K. Polk, Napoleon of the Stump

In four short years he met his every goal
He seized the whole southwest from Mexico
Made sure the tarriffs fell
And made the English sell the Oregon territory
He built an independent treasury
Having done all this he sought no second term
But precious few have mourned the passing of
Mister James K. Polk, our eleventh president
Young Hickory, Napoleon of the Stump

-They Might Be Giants

Apart from abolishing slavery, Lincoln was actually a bad president from a Libertarian perspective. He censored the press and arrested dissenters, I believe he also had a domestic spying program. Then again, this is from a more modern perspective disregarding the whole Civil War mentality. He was a lot like George W. Bush

[AbsintheClock]

Panama Canal motherfuckers!

[AMPEEEM]

Panama Canal motherfuckers!

Im seeing a pattern. The CC loves Teddy

[Slurpee]

Im seeing a pattern. The CC loves Teddy

[zl]

I actually didn't have any previous preference for Lincoln before choosing this name, I just like the idea of him as a zombie.

Since then I've picked up books of his writings and letters.  He was an amazing writer, poet, and intellectual.  Nothing has turned me off of present-day politics like reading the beautiful and honest speeches given by Lincoln.

[Heliopios]

Oh god yes

[GearBoxClock]

The One that gave me Cake has got to be the best.

[SilverCherryClock]

Teddy Roosevelt was amazing for being like 'Okay America is awesome and everyone should know it so I'm gonna build fleets and crazy canal projects and end other people's wars. Oh also I'm gonna bust trusts and do a bunch of awesome progressive stuff despite being republican because fuck Laissez-faire'. Plus delivering a speech after being shot in the chest is just awesome in general. Also instead of basking in their parent's money before running for president like all the other candidates Teddy Roosevelt was a cowboy and also the founder of the Rough Riders who killed evil Spanish in Cuba so there's that too.

[Joey 57857]

i like teddy and clinton on the one hand teddy was a great president who brought us through a lot and clinton did just as much and would have perfect if it wasn't for that whole scandal thing so to each there own but i like clinton and teddy

[TequilaClock]

No fucking contest

[Topcatyo]

For who I was alive for: Clinton
Otherwise: Lincoln

[Marlin Clock]

Something every man should believe.
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy."
"In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free - honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just - a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless."
"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."

Lincoln pulling a Yogiism.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them."

Businesses should recognize this.
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."

I like this take on litigation.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser - in fees, expenses, and waste of time. As a peacemaker the lawyer has a superior opportunity of being a good man. There will still be business enough."

[TorchClock]

For me it's a tie between Mr. Lincoln and JFK.

[Loki Clock]

Teddy, for reasons apparently known to all present, and Carter, for knowing how to run a presidency without running a war.

Apart from abolishing slavery, Lincoln was actually a bad president from a Libertarian perspective. He censored the press and arrested dissenters, I believe he also had a domestic spying program. Then again, this is from a more modern perspective disregarding the whole Civil War mentality. He was a lot like George W. Bush

And also the Civil War being about slavery was a lie, and the ensuing butthurt on the South's part is why we have the KKK. THANKS A BUNCH, LINCOLN.

[ChickenClock]

John Adams (watch HBO's John Adams, seriously)

John Q. Adams, a guy that ugly has got to be a good president, right?

JFK, womenizing stud

Andrew Jackson,  dueling in the White House's backyard? Hell yeah!